An Ounce of Prevention ...
There are always some lofts more affected with any disease than some other lofts and YBS is no exception. I had a lot of problems with YBS especially from one loft these past couple of years but there have been no losses from that loft this year. What a difference from years past!
One of my friends could not get his "probiotic" to curdle milk in a day and wrote the company in question about his difficulty.
Here is part of the answer of the company's microbiologist:
From reading the references I cited in the various pages on probiotics it should be obvious that the use of probiotics can have many desirable consequences for us as well as for the livestock under our care.
Large One Loft Derbies are often plagued with disease outbreaks and I was consequently curious as to whether the strengthening of the immune system through the early administration of probiotics would be beneficial for the youngsters participating in such an event.
The above is, however, no indication that the use of probiotics is without any value. It is possible that the young and immature immune system was unable to respond to the challenge or was overwhelmed by the challenge resulting in a setback rather than a beneficial change.
In 2004 I was supplying my old birds a mixture of various probiotics on their daily grain and was pleased with their health indicated by their eagerness to exercise. These birds received this mixture daily without any ill effects.
|An interesting parallel:|
Original article can be found at http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/11/13/fecal-transplant.html
Don't poo-poo technique: Fecal transplant can cure superbug, doctors sayMore than 90 per cent of C. difficile patients are cured by fecal transplants, studies suggest.
Last Updated: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 | 10:17 AM MTA controversial new treatment, which involves the transplantation of human waste, can treat cases of C. difficile infection. But only a handful of physicians in Canada undertake the messy procedure.
Left unchecked, C. difficile bacteria can cause chronic diarrhea, leaving sufferers virtually confined to their bathrooms.(CBC)
Clostridium difficile is a super bug that commonly spreads in hospital settings and has been linked to the deaths of at least 2,000 people in Quebec since 2003, as well as in other provinces.
Though C. difficile can be kept in check by good bacteria in the bowel, problems can arise when the super bug is treated by antibiotics such as vancomycin. The antibiotics sometimes wipe out the good bacteria but fail to completely kill the C. difficile — leaving enough of it that it later flourishes.
"If you wipe out the normal bacteria by taking an antibiotic, then this bug overgrows and it releases a toxin which causes severe diarrhea," Dr. Mike Silverman, an internal medicine specialist from Ajax, Ont., told CBC News.
According to him, the diarrhea can become chronic day after day and month after month. "It's painful, people can't get on with their lives … and if doctors can't keep a patient hydrated and nourished, it can be deadly."
Calgary resident Dorothy Badry battled C. difficile for almost a year in 2004.
"You are going to the bathroom at least 40 times a day. And there is a lot of pain associated with that. Your skin starts to break down and the process is extremely painful."
During that time, Badry could not work and could not care for her disabled daughter. "I basically had to give up everything," she said.
Calgary doctor is one of few doing transplantsFecal transplants have become the first-line treatment for chronic recurrent C. difficile in Scandinavia. As well, more and more doctors are using it in the United States.
Studies that have been published show that more than 90 per cent of patients are cured through fecal transplants — most of them after just one treatment.
But only a handful of doctors in Canada are willing to undertake the unpleasant procedure which involves taking a healthy person's fecal matter and transplanting it into a person infected with C. difficile.
They cite sanitation reasons for their hesitation.
Calgary physician Dr. Tom Louie, head of infection control at Foothills Hospital, is one of the few physicians in Canada who treats patients with chronic C. difficile with fecal transplants, or fecal therapy. He has done 38 procedures to date.
The procedure involves getting a close relative of the patient, such as a sibling, to donate several days-worth of stool. Louie tests the stool for diseases such as hepatitis and HIV and then mixes it with saline to create liquid feces. He then administers the stool to the patient through a barium enema.
Louie said the technique allows good bacteria from the transplanted stool to reduce the number of C. difficile bacteria in the intestines and to restore normal intestinal function.
He said the process is fairly quick. "It takes me about an hour and I leave it in there overnight. I'm hoping that some of these normal bugs will come and find a home, and when they find a home it will kick out the C. difficile."
'It cured me,' Toronto woman saysMarcia Munro, a Toronto resident, received a fecal transplant from her sister Wendy Sinukoff after suffering from C. difficile for 14 months several years ago.
'This procedure cured me.… I know many people die from C. difficile and I want people to know there is hope when you have this illness.'—Marcia Munro
"I had to collect stool samples for five days prior to our leaving Toronto, and I collected it in an ice cream container and kept it in the fridge," said Sinukoff.
She had to then fly the samples to Calgary so that Louie could transplant it into her sister — a process that involved getting the sample through airport security.
"My biggest fear was that my samples were not allowed to be frozen, so I had to take them as carry-on luggage in the airplane and I was terrified that I was going to be asked to have my luggage searched," she said.
Munro said the transplant was a success.
"It cured me. This procedure cured me and one of reasons I agreed to do this story — because it's difficult to talk about — is I know many people die from C. difficile and I want people to know there is hope when you have this illness."
|Friday June 18, 2004|
|Very interesting article on the use of pre- and probiotics. I have been using probiotics and Health Gard on all birds in my loft in 2004 and have the healthiest birds ever. Also, I tested Primalac on powdered milk as you suggested and found it curdled the milk after 24 hours. You have an excellent website and I enjoy reading your articles.|
|Thursday September 2, 2004|
witbank, south africa
|please let me know if healthgaurd is available here by us and if not how can i get it having problems for the first time with YBS unknown here by us. Thank You very much Nico|
|Friday September 3, 2004|
I don't think that Siegel works in your country but you can import it from the USA. Regrettably, probiotics work only as a prevention and not as a cure. Siegel's web site: http://www.siegelpigeons.com/catalog-pro-biotics.html
Currently I do not use Siegel's product but a more complicated management practice which can be found at http://www.albertaclassic.com/Calendar/2004/September1.php
I am sure that there are "many ways which lead to Rome". I wish you good luck whichever one you choose.
|Thursday June 12, 2014|
|Hello! Very interesting and informative website, by the way! Any idea where and/or how I can purchase Health Gard Probiotics in Canada ? I placed an order with Siegels for a quart a Health Gard, along with a bottle of Moxidectin Plus, but received an answer reading "Sorry, but we do not ship out any medications out of the country. Your order has been cancelled". I initially thought Moxidectin Plus was the problem, and that they'd still be able to send the probiotics, but they replied in the negative. I haven't been able to locate either product anywhere else. Any help is greatly appreciated!|
|Friday December 25, 2015|
|I have found that I get very good results for probiotics by putting one capsule for human use(bought at a drugstore) I use the type that has 10 different strains of bacteria. To a gal of dechlorinated water I add 1.5 teaspoon of white sugar and two tablespoons of milk. Skim milk is best but any would work. Let it stand for two days or so. Once the milk is curdled it is ready. Dump any chlorinated water you may have in your water containers and use this. I have had birds with diarrhea and it was gone in a day, works very well. Leave a little in the bottom of your container to add to to make a new batch. I have also used bird/reptile probiotics in the same way and had the same good results.|